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Thursday, November 18, 2010

Reasons Why You SHOULD NEVER Look at SDN

Yes, folks, these are real. Copied verbatim (except the purple.. that's me :). Sad to Say.

HELP!
I went to a community college and then transferred to ucsd. I've got straight a's in all my classes except my 1st semester at the community college was a c in calculus b in chem c in bio and b in English. my mcat score is 34. what are my chances for ucla medical school as well a's other uc med schools?


Am I worried for no reason?????
Stats:
GPA is around 3.85
sGPA is around 3.85
MCAT score was a 36Q
2 Summers of Hospital Volunteering (200+ hours)
2 Semesters as a writer for school paper
2 Semesters working as a team manager
Working at a Pharmacy for 2 summers (unpaid, 75+ hours)
Other EC --> Cultural Club and Intramural sports
-I had no research experience until this year but I currently am doing research and I also have a sports medicine internship (8 hours per week)
-I applied to like 20 schools
-I got 5 interviews so far (Rochester, Penn State, Buffalo, SUNY up and downstate) but I was already rejected from Buffalo and my other interviews are coming up..
-Also I shadowed two doctors in August, one for around 40+ hours and another for around 10, I'll be working with the former again this winter break...


Suggestions????
I am a Florida resident, 3.86 cumulative, 3.83 science & math, 31Q MCAT, majoring in Applied Economics and Biochemistry. I have 2 years of patient volunteering, 1 month of shadowing a rad onc, 2 science research projects, 1 economics research project on price discrimination in the health care system, and lots of leadership (SGA senate 2 terms and world affairs program), and I have worked as a chemistry tutor for 1.5 years. I have 6 letters of rec, 3 from the professors I did research with and took classes with, 1 from the volunteer coordinator of local hospice, and 1 from rad onc shadowed, I know them all pretty personally.

I submitted my secondary to UF on 10/4 and have yet to hear anything. If offered an interview should I provide an update at the interview or after the interview? I am starting a new volunteer experience (tutoring mentally disabled adults and teens for GED), a new research project, and will be submitting 2 papers for publication in the coming months as 1st author. Any general suggestions? THANKS!

PLEASE HELP!!! 3.34 GPA and 39 MCAT!!!

Please help me out here, what do y'all think my chances are? I'm pretty nervous because of my low GPA. Below is a concise 'resume'...if you need more info just ask
I am a junior at Duke, so my science GPA is my projected GPA for the end of this semester, presumed that I keep the same grades I have now.
science GPA: 3.34 (Overall: 3.41), with an intended Major in Biomedical Engineering and an already completed Minor in Biology at Duke University. I really screwed up freshman year, but got a 3.4 fall semester sophomore year and have been trending upwards in GPA.
-MCAT: 39, taken only once
Extracurriculars: Leadership positions in 2 major school clubs (1 club sport), worked 7000+ hours
(WTF???? 7000 HOURS???) in 2 labs (1 clinical, 1 biochemistry) since high school, published as author on 3 journal articles ( 1 in Nature). 200+ hours clinical volunteering, shadowed 2 physicians for 120+ hours. My summers were spent working full time in labs, volunteering and shadowing.
Michigan resident, Asian background
I have a feeling my GPA will come back to haunt me.

PLEASE LET YOUR HONEST OPINION GUIDE ME!!!!
I started to think about going to medical school in my senior year of college (one year to go, its a five year program). due to an event I experienced.
I jUST WANT TO KNOW my chances through this forum, recommended by many pre-med students I know

my info:
Syracuse University
Major: bioengineering, and Physics
minor : Linguistics
GPA: 3.2, I believe I can pull it up through my electives to 3.4
Science GPA 3.6
I took Kaplan MCAT (free event, it was like a real test scenario but without the writing section). I scored a 35.
Academia awards
Dean list
Honor List
chancellor award (two year consecutively), the highest award you can get in my university
Experience
worked in factory (part time)
Independent study in Darfur, planning to go back again at the end of this summer
Research Assistant
president of Society of Public Health education
President of Syracuse Breakdance Club
public relation of Biomedical engineer society
United Nation Ambassador of good will
Volunteers
Say Yes Education
Amaus Drive
taught refugee kids after school
and many others non related to medical fields
non academic Award
won the redbull Street futbol (as a team) in Germany 2008
competed in the preliminary of Redbull bc one
Langauges
English
Nubian
Portuguese
Arabic
Dutch
(taking spanish courses as of now)
I shadowed a doctor recently (for a week) to see if I really want to be a doctor or not
****I know that I don't any type of clinical experience, research and hospital volunteering.
but I should start to hospital volunteer by next semester, and Hopefully researching.
Please let me know what you think!!!!

SIGH. Lets just all set ourselves on fire. Bleh.

15 comments:

  1. I've found SDN to be a huge, huge help through this whole process. Yes, it is the internet so there are ridiculous posts, but if you can't separate the wheat from the chaff that's your own damn fault.

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  2. Those comments, if not inflated, all reek of insecurity. None of those people sound as if they've ever held a job and paid rent or taxes. Not sure that I'd really want any of them to be my doctor.

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  3. Anon~ I agree that there is useful info on SDN, but the problem is that you have to read these type of posts... and then the responses of people who tell them they aren't good enough... and it is totally ridiculous and damaging to people who don't have a 3.8 or a 39 MCAT. I mean, really? The "useful" info on SDN can easily be obtained elsewhere without the ego blast.

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  4. I used to read a lot of SDN. And there are *some* (very few) consistent authors who answer questions in a constructive way who know what they're talking about who are a) residents, b) fellows c) attendings. Most others just vent and put other people down. But I wouldn't stop resorting to SDN because if you look hard enough you can find answers to almost any question med school/MCAT or other stuff included (minus the 3.8 GPA and 39 MCAT - that's a stupid question, I agree).

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  5. What I always wonder is: are the people that submit posts like that actually concerned they're not going to get in? Or are have they just discovered a way to brag about their credentials without admitting to themselves that they are bragging?

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  6. Ella -- If you're a big enough toolbag to post all these stats on SDN asking these sorts of questions, then maybe you actually DO have something to worry about as an applicant. Just saying....

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  7. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Seriously, I think SDN can be like an eating disorder clinic where everyone is already way too thin and they're all asking if they're thin enough. BLAH! :)

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  8. Dear Lord. You're right. I always tell people... if you've tried your best, looked at all your options, made good decisions about applying to schools, and acted like yourself during the multiple interviews you got, you'll probably get in. It's possible that you won't, but it's a good possibility. Especially if I know these people, and they DEFINITELY have >3.6ish, >30, + research + ECs + great personality, I tell them to apply to a few schools other than Harvard, Brown, Hopkins, Penn, UCSF, Michigan, Case, Washington, and Emory. I'm sure they'll do fine.

    Ahhh yes. The neurotic nature of the wanna-be med student.

    nik

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  9. For the record, yes, a lot of these people that post their entire resumes for the world to see are prob douchebags. It's not like you can change it at this point, and admissions committees are the only ones that can make the final decision.

    And seriously....7000 hours of lab work? 7000? If that were 4 hours/day, each and every 5-day work week, without stopping for any holidays, it would take this fool... what like almost 7 years for this. Which means person must have started washing glassware sometime in grade 9 or something.

    The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What do these people have to prove? On the internet where it doesn't even count. But then again I guess this is one of those LOOK-mine-is-bigger-than-yours things.

    I got in, and I definitely didn't work in a lab for 7000 hours. Just saying.

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  10. what i don't understand is why people are asking people on SDN for advice? I mean, do they think SDNers have some secret link to adcoms that the rest of the world doesn't? or that other premeds are adcom experts? nuts.

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  11. that actually just freaked me out, because I didn't have a clue what SDN was until about 3 minutes ago, and I thought these were people who didn't get in...which is obviously still a possibility...but I am a first year (or freshman...i'm canadian), and hopefully I will be a doctor someday. I think your posts are awesome, because you aren't one of those people who have ridiculous resumes and do things just because they want to get into med school, but you do things because you want to. I think that is cool, mostly because you are real, and I don't have ridiculous lists of things on my resume, I just I want to be a doctor... :)

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  12. I'm with anon @2:02. I figure most of these people know they are in solid positions and are way ahead of many applicants. If they don't, then they're idiots despite their stats.

    someone else did an entertaining post on how not to be a pre-med douche, and I always thought he should have included the SDN stats postings...
    http://medschoolmemoir.com/a-guide-to-not-being-a-pre-med-douchebag/

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  13. Haters gunna hate!!

    -premed "douchebag" 3.85/41R/Bioengineering

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  14. haha ok i'm going to have to disagree with some. I sympathize with the sdners with solid stats who ask about their chances. Some may be trying to brag but others are probably truly curious. Getting into med school is not a numbers game and as a current applicant, I am often plagued with doubts/insecurities. I have a >3.8 gpa and >36 mcat and I am not worried about my numbers at all. however, there are a LOT of other things that do worry me. i haven't posted a "what are my chances" question on sdn but i've thought about doing it and wanting to brag had absolutely nothing to do with it. other sdners may not have secret links with adcoms but some are more experienced about the application process. some of the advice i've gotten = gold. anyway, my point is: don't bash us poor crazy sdners, please :)

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